Thursday
22Nov2007
YouTube disables anti-police brutality channel
Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:35AM
I've just received the following message from blogger and friend Wael Abbas...
This is un-bloody-believable. YouTube has just disabled probably the most important channel for the Egyptian blogosphere. Wael's videos have been central in the fight against police brutality, and YouTube should be proud the Egyptian anti-torture activists have been using its channels in the current War on Torture... but instead, the YouTube administrators played a cat-and-mouse game with us when it came it uploading Emad Kabeer's videos, taking it down several times, then allowing it censored, then uncensored, then parts of it.. then they take it down, and then put it up again... which has been not the most user-friendly for the anti-torture bloggers when posting hyperlinks or embedding videos. The same troubles were also faced with other police brutality videos that bloggers tried uploading, like the woman murder suspect torture video.
[Wael during the 18 September 2006 anti-NDP protest, Tahrir Sq. Photo by Hossam el-Hamalawy]
It's necessary at the moment to start diversifying the tools we use in uploading videos to the web. The response to the bullshit YouTube is throwing at us will be simply a slow migration from using its service...
I'm sure many of you are aware (and already using) other tools, including VEOH, Live Leak, Zippy Videos, etc...
I also invite you to check out THE HUB...
disaster: youtube disables my account claiming there were complaints about my police torture videos!!!
This is un-bloody-believable. YouTube has just disabled probably the most important channel for the Egyptian blogosphere. Wael's videos have been central in the fight against police brutality, and YouTube should be proud the Egyptian anti-torture activists have been using its channels in the current War on Torture... but instead, the YouTube administrators played a cat-and-mouse game with us when it came it uploading Emad Kabeer's videos, taking it down several times, then allowing it censored, then uncensored, then parts of it.. then they take it down, and then put it up again... which has been not the most user-friendly for the anti-torture bloggers when posting hyperlinks or embedding videos. The same troubles were also faced with other police brutality videos that bloggers tried uploading, like the woman murder suspect torture video.
[Wael during the 18 September 2006 anti-NDP protest, Tahrir Sq. Photo by Hossam el-Hamalawy]
It's necessary at the moment to start diversifying the tools we use in uploading videos to the web. The response to the bullshit YouTube is throwing at us will be simply a slow migration from using its service...
I'm sure many of you are aware (and already using) other tools, including VEOH, Live Leak, Zippy Videos, etc...
I also invite you to check out THE HUB...





Reader Comments (49)
youtube is suck !! they just care a bout sex & lesbians video !!!
Well, the message from youtube is that waelabbas violated their terms of use.
This is actually true if you take a look at it. It states that content should follow the community guidelines[1]. In these community guidelines, there is this statement saying "Graphic or gratuitous violence is not allowed. If your video shows someone getting hurt, attacked, or humiliated, don't post it."
This actually means that any video aimed at displaying state violence or torture against civilians will eventually be removed.
Simply, this means that YouTube is NOT the proper tool for this job. And Waelabbas and others posting similar content, should look for a websites, that don't have similar terms. Or a website that is activist friendly, something similar to Indymedia or others.
[1] http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines
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this is so bad
what are you going to do?
i hope that this wont go on for long!!!
be free be free
Brian Whitaker mentioned this and your post.
Some poeple are suggesting that video's should be posted in some proposed AmnestyTube.
Amensty's!
Who looks at Amnesty's site or videos?
Not the occasional surfer who thought of looking for clips on his next vacation spot.
Not the average Egyptian who didn't know anything - or didn't want to - about torture and who was just seeing what YouTube has on his country.
Only hardcore activists look at Amnesty's; and even then only some of them.
As for Islamists shooting tourists; while I don't have a reason to say videos dipicting these happenings shouldn't be on any given video service, I can't find a purpose for it! The actions are already condemned, and their commiters are considered renegades and prosecuted by law-enforcement. News stations lap after these clips.
On the other hand, going against the government and against those who should protect you - when you have to - is what needs this medium the most. Specially when a considerable sector of the population refused to acknowledge that this could merely happen, and with a local media that is so timid as to be the first to air such a clipping.
[...] source for regular news on Egypt’s democracy movement. I learn also that YouTube is pulling dick moves with said democracy movement. At the bottom of the story, Hossam el-Hamalawy lists other sources [...]
نحن معاك يا استاذ وائل ونرفض منع عرض كليباتك على اليو توب
[...] you can move television shows online or to satellite. Even though YouTube might squirm at the sight of people being beaten up, and the West’s favourite modern autocrats can always [...]
It seems that Youtube gonna be change the policy of it self.. so .. i think that little thing will not stop you Wael.. so.. GO AHEAD BRAKE A LEG.. Allah bless you
[...] has highlighted YouTube’s decision to block the Egypt torture videos page, which we recently covered. In his post Brian says points how this removes a crucial tool at the hands of bloggers to [...]
انا مصرى بدبى وبكره مصر الله يحرقها بس برضه معاك يا وائل لانك راجل واعزرنى على اسلوبى بس لانى طهقان بجد حسبى له ونعم الوكيل
امر محزن جدا يا استاذ وائل بان تقوم تلك الشركات التي تنتمي الي العالم الديمقراطي بهذا الفعل الذي يدعو الي عدم الثقه في اي طرف وخصوصا في ظل هذا العالم المعقد والتوازنات والمصالح المتبادله ولكن هل تاكدت من السبب , عموما يمكن التحرك في عدة اتجاهات اولا : محاوله ليجاد بديل لموقع يوتوب للرفع وان يكون اثنان وليس واحد ثانيا : محاوله الاتصال ببعض الصحف الامريكيه وفضح ذلك الامر للراي العام الامريكي .
we all support your activity against the corupted system in Egypt, if you tube insist on baning your clips I and I beleive many of the free people who suffered from the Egyptian regim will also stop log to You tube forever as we repect that site . we all support you for repost your videoclip again.
medfam
[...] has suspended the account of Wael Abbas - which contained the the egyptian police brutality and torture videos- because there were [...]
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله
اانا معاك ياوائل وكلنا معاك انا عندى مدونة برضه لكن مش بعتمد فى نقل الفيديوهات على اليوتيوب بستخدم طريقة البلوج فى عرض الفيديوهات وبتكون بنفس الجودة والوضوح وانت برضه ممكن تحط كل الفيديوهات على البلوج بتاعك من غير حساب اليوتيوب فى الف مليون طريقة وبعدين الحركة المعرصة دى اللى عملتها اليوتيوب بتشكفلنا ان فى صفقة بينها وبين الحكومة الهبابية
تحياتى
معاك ياباشا
http://hub.witness.org/
Welcome to the Hub -- the world's first participatory media site for human rights. Through the Hub, individuals, organizations, networks and groups around the world are able to bring their human rights stories and campaigns to global attention and to mobilize action to protect and promote human rights.
we are with you
It seems that Youtube gonna be change the policy of it self
الكلام دا كبير كبير اوى ياحماعه وارجوا ان يكون الاخير وايضا ارجو من الاستاذ وائل عبس ان يتخلى فى كلامه عن الكلامات الشاده مثل ااحه والكلام دا يعنى عيب عيب عليك ياوائل
محزن
Use http://www.liveleak.com/ for your videos.
People all over the world see it.
معاك على طول الخط
معاك يا باشا و لو كنت عايز نقاطع يو تيوب نقاطعوه عشان خاطرك